Parchment of Terrible Beasts Overpowered.

[Rurikar]

I'm barely just dipping into nightmare, but I was kinda hoping either this scroll wouldn't work or wouldn't be as effective. There is almost to point for me to ever do anything other then press Tab and hit Attack with pet. I remember my first couple characters, some of the bosses were really tough fights, hell I remember Diablo on my mercenary I got to the point where I was about to run out of potions, drop a merchant to buy potions and barely kill him, but this time around I just send my pet on him and wait 20 seconds.

The entire first difficulty could pretty much be done without ever spending a talent point, casting a spell or using a weapon because of how insanely overpowered this pet is. Does it fall off before the last difficulty? Or is it just insanely, insanely broken?

Honestly, I think it needs a straight up nerf if it's not removed. I'm not sure what the intention of it was other then being a funny Monty Python joke (which was hilarious the first time I used it), but if it can't be nerfed, then the cost has to be increased. 1 plat for 15 charges is just way too cheap for something that destroys everything in the game. I would honestly make it 1 plat for 1 charge, or maybe even 10 plat for 10 charges just so if it's purpose was to level up lower level characters there is a huge money sink involved.

I guess you could just "not use it", but Diablo style games are all about the min/maxing and trying to make big overpowered awesome characters/classes and combinations. Kinda hard to just look at something and go "Yeah this is so good I'm not gonna use it!"

[Tolakram]

Either this or someone can be powerlevelled.

I can look into nerfing it, not sure why it's so overpowered, but generally you either play something like D2 the way you want to play it or not.

I'll probably just raise the cost and use it as a money sink. Seems boring though.

[Gerk]

Unless im totally off base here, couldnt you just make the mobs be like act 5 mobs against the bunny? the bunny is way less effective in act 5 vs act 1. not sure if its a hit points thing or a resistance against the bunny attacks. but yeah.... just an idea.

[Rurikar]

Either this or someone can be powerlevelled.

I can look into nerfing it, not sure why it's so overpowered, but generally you either play something like D2 the way you want to play it or not.

I'll probably just raise the cost and use it as a money sink. Seems boring though.

I'm okay with using it to powerleveling through the first tier of content (should still cost way more though imo), it's just kinda silly that when you start doing Nightmare mode you can run around naked with this pet and kill everything. It's also straight the best pet for any pet class in the game. Even bonedancers/necros your better off using this thing.

[xmidnight8x]

I wouldn't mind if it was 100 plat and keep it the way it is, to me that makes more sense.

[Gerk]

Thats insane, 100 plat you must be joking. The bunny doesnt need a nerf imo, if you need proof on this take it with you on the way to d2 the bunny dies after nearly every pull. If you think it makes the game too easy for you then dont use it. Run around soloing things with a paladin and you will change your tune real fast.

This is not ment to offend anybody so i hope thats not what it came across as. Just no other way to explain it.

[xmidnight8x]

I take mah bunneh to D2 and he kills everything in sight even on Hell Mode. Know what I think the problem is? The bunny's damage could be related to how much INT/PIETY a toon has because I have noticed on my magic/hybrid toons he does way more damage with his AE dots than he does when my hero is using him. I figured it has to be related somehow to the character's main power/magic damage attribute.

I went from level 1 to 50 in 38 minutes with my Theurgist and the bunny pet, it basically power leveled me so I can see the original poster's point.

[Tolakram]

I'd really like to know how I overpowered it so much. It might be related to a self heal the bunny has. I hope to get some time in the next week to work on it.

[Gerk]

The bunny is the best pet in the game, it should be powerful. If you start on a new account with no outside assistance you will be level 40-50 before you even have enough money to buy one. As for nightmare/realm/hell.... do you really wanna level your characters legit 4 times? Sure the first time you get to 80 its awesome... for like 2 seconds till you realize you have to re-level another 3 times to finish the character. The bunny is a valuable leveling tool for the soloers that have already leveled dozens of chars and dont feel like taking weeks to finish their current character. Though im not sure what has suddenly brought the bunny to all the "too op" talk, I for one haven't seen a change to the bunny damage or survivability since I started playing on this server about 2 months ago.

[Gerk]

The bunny's damage could be related to how much INT/PIETY a toon has because I have noticed on my magic/hybrid toons he does way more damage with his AE dots than he does when my hero is using him. I figured it has to be related somehow to the character's main power/magic damage attribute.

Do you use the same gear on your different chars? With my capped suit i dont see any difference in the bunny whether im on my vamp that has no casting stat for its spells vs any other caster/tank/hybrid class.

I take mah bunneh to D2 and he kills everything in sight even on Hell Mode.

At level 55? or 80?

[Hypro]

To nerf the bunny now would mean a total class readjustment. Classes like the shaman for instance in hell mode stands no chance without the bunny to tank for him.

[Reyal]

I'd really like to know how I overpowered it so much. It might be related to a self heal the bunny has. I hope to get some time in the next week to work on it.

it's not so much over powered as it is bloody annoying.. i've been told you stance on "kill stealing" is pretty brutal, though i doubt it given the way the server is..

people with bunny can pull far too much through passive means.. got into an arguement over "primary bunny offense in df highlords/knights area" vs primary self sufficient bad ass... im not gonna let a bunny chucker have the spawn.. im gonna 2 shot the mobs and be on my merry way

and to the last post before this one, sorry but ANY and EVERY class can be self sufficient.. just learn the ins and outs of the server better..

[Lurikhaun]

Reyal- You completely missed the point of my objection to kill stealing... it is not because it may or may not be annoying or rude (which is all true)... The point was that while bunny may be overpowered, there are legitimate ways to use it (and some cheap/lazy ways).. And unknowing of what someones play strategy is, it is wrong to just say, "oh bunny, I can kill steal"... You may not like an ability etc. but that gives no justification to play Judge & Jury, when it comes to other peoples play styles... This is a public server, we are all sharing the same mobs... there is no need to be rude to people who are probably newer to the game, because as you pointed out, and all seasoned players on this server know, you can kill faster than bunny in DF on many toons... So I feel as if the result of this behavior (kill stealing) will result in a hostile environment for new players..