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How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:44 pm
by preachie
Hey guys,

it's me again with another problem here ;-)
After gaining some levels (29 now) my wife wanted to get a horse :D

She bought a Horse Voucher for 50g at the Horse Merchant at the stables in TNN near the south gate.
Regarding the online help you have to give that voucher to the Royal Stable Master who is inside the stables which will trigger a quest.
Unfortunately the stable master does not accept the voucher ("Royal Stable Master does not want this item") so nothing happens. Is it bugged or are the basic horses just not implemented on Storm? Are there any other ways to get mounts here on the server?

Thanks in advance :)
Preachie

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:54 pm
by Tolakram
Sorry, that horse voucher is worthless ... need to remove it. :( You buy horses on storm from the floating jeanies in each capital city.

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:37 pm
by Argo
Around next week you'll find on the 3 tuto islands a quest called 'A kingdom for a horse' the quest reward is a standard chestnut horse. If you are interested, keep your eyes open next week.

kind regards
Argo

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:29 pm
by preachie
Thanks for your answers!

One additional question: those horses from the jeanies, are they just useable for lvl 50 chars or already before?
Don't want to waste 100g or more for an item I can't use now ;)

Thanks

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:36 pm
by Argo
i am not 100% sure but i believe they are lvl 30

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:26 pm
by baradien
yep level 30 just in the pve zones itself not in rvr zones.

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:18 am
by preachie
I figured out that there are different horses for lvl 10, 20 and 50.

Funny thing, my wife bought a Palomino 'horse' which should look like http://www.camelotherald.com/imagesu/55110000.jpg
But she got a Palomino unicorn instead... or is it normal that all elves get a unicorn model instead of a horse model? ;-)

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:10 am
by Tolakram
Doesn't sound normal to me. These silly horse npc's go back years, before I was active. They annoy me to no end, but to make them live like and put in the quests is just too much work considering how many other things need fixed. Hopefully someone will review what's for sale and maybe fix the model issues. :)

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:39 am
by Argo
Doesn't sound normal to me. These silly horse npc's go back years, before I was active. They annoy me to no end, but to make them live like and put in the quests is just too much work considering how many other things need fixed. Hopefully someone will review what's for sale and maybe fix the model issues. :)
if you don't mind, i would like to write the quests for the basic horse. Shouldn't be too dificult. If i got more experience in writing quests i think i can do the special horses quests then. meanwhile i'd suggest to get rid of the horse vendors in camelot, tnn and jordheim. Just an idea.

kind regards
Argo

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:08 pm
by Tolakram
Sounds awesome Argo!

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:16 pm
by preachie
Hey guys,

I took some time and investigated the 'horse model issue' and finally I think to know what's going on.
First it was a bit confusing to understand how this works, how the model is determined, where the specific horse shapes come from.
With the help of a local DOL server, the client data (mpk files) and analyzing the DOL DB I figured out following details:
- All mount horses have the model 2912
- The specific type of a mount horse is stored in the column 'SPD_ABS' in the table itemtemplate
- To match the numeric value from the SPD_ABS column to the actual horse model take a look at the horsemap.csv in the gamedata.mpk of the game client

Within the horsemap.csv there exists generally 3 different types of horses, described as 'Standard', 'Heavy' and 'Unicorn' (with the exception of the Epic horses and the Nightmare, Undead and Sea Horse) so they use a unique pattern of

Name [Standard|Heavy|Unicorn]

Within the DOL DB the naming is a bit different.
There are Heavy Mounts, Standard Mounts, War Mounts and even just Mounts (so no Unicorn mentioned).
One would expect that the ones called just 'xxx Mount' that these are the unicorn versions.
This is also true for some types, e.g. the in a previous post already mentioned Palomino.

The item you can buy by from Krigih is called 'Palomino Mount' for 200g and in fact this is a unicorn shaped mount.
However, e.g. for the item Chocolate Mount, it's the Chocolate Standard, the Leopard Mount is the Leopard Heavy.

So in my opinion
1.) the naming of the mounts is not clear
2.) the matching between mounts which are simply called 'xyz Mount' is inconsistent (sometimes it's a standard, sometimes a heavy and sometimes a unicorn)

Additionally there are some more mounts available than sold by Krigih (but okay, that's not necessarily an issue ;) )

I would suggest to rename the Mounts sold by Krigih in a consistent way, like Name + Standard/Heavy/War/Unicorn and correct also the matching to the right looks.

Let me know if you have any questions about that or if I can help somehow to correct that ;)

Cheers
Preachie

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:01 pm
by Argo
summon Graveen

Re: How to get basic horse?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:12 pm
by Argo
Sounds awesome Argo!
Ok, thus my next Project will consist the following things:

Kingdom for a horse Quest quest for Albion, Midgard and Hibernia on the Tutorial Islands.
When that is done:
The Quests for the basic horse in the classic zones (Basic Horse Quest)

kind regards
Argo