New Epic Encounter Discussion: Lilith, The Demon Queen

[Bobster]

As Etaew and Istandalonetoo know by now, I worked for a good part of the weekend coding Lilith and her rudimentary AI. She will go live after the next server restart. I'm not going to give anything away, including the method that you have to use to spawn her, however I'd like to explain things a bit so people do not think that some things are bugs when are they intended.

Lilith is a scripted encounter and is intended to be the second toughest enemy(next to the dragons of course) on Storm at this moment. She drops only jewelry, as it is on live, but her jewelry is the best on the server and will probably continue to be for some time. She can also drop 1 respec stone of each variety(25% for full, 55% for single, 75% for realm), and a huge helping of diamond seals. She will always drop at least 7 items and a bag of coins.

I do feel justified in giving her excellent loot, however. I'd like to preemptively diffuse any negative sentiments about the high quality of her drops. Lilith spawns in DF after a certain chain of events happens. Therefore, you will not see her often. Secondly, it's a full-on RvR zone. While your group is fighting Lilith, you could easily be attacked by members of the opposing factions, or even a clever assassin could take the opportunity to knock off one of your healers. Finally, she is a difficult mob. She doesn't just stand there like most boss mobs on Storm. She can do a variety of things which I won't get in too here

All in all, I hope you guys really enjoy the effort I've put into this encounter, and I hope the mystery of her spawn is at least enjoyable for most players. If you have any suggestions about how to balance her(after you've fought her), please post it here.

Thanks

[Roozzz]

Very nice to see things like this getting into the game Hope you will find the time and energy to implement more of these kind of mobs/things ingame, you surely made me happy with patrolling mobs and this

Hope Ill be able to fight her soon, kinda curious though if this spawn is handled the same way as on live? Or you arent gonna say a thing?

[Bobster]

She is much more difficult on Storm than she is on live. I made her this way(and improved her drops) due to the lack of ToA on Storm. There needs to be highly desirable drops that come from a single-group encounter.

[WisdomConners]

Anyone logged in now who's up for testing this one out in Alb?

[Roozzz]

We killed it a couple of times this evening.
Imo it is way to easy atm, we dropped it in about 15 seconds One time we took a bit longer but at that point we had kobil, some succubusses and 2 hibs and 1 alb on us Still killed everybody.
Note this wasnt a perfect set up group, we had 4 tanks, 1 healer and 1 shaman bb. But yes we know what we do

Maybe a way to make lilith a bit harder is to give her some AoE effect or something like that, maybe something like this is ingame, but we didnt even notice it, so might want to crank that one up And you "should" lower the damage she takes. Or raise her hitpoints by a lot.
The items are pretty nice though, think I would like to farm this one a bit


After this we ran towards the dragon, which we werent able to kill... damage on him is really low, and he regens faster then we can knock it off We think it can be killed if you have 2 fgs or 1fg full with players who know what they do :p So might be nice to check this one, since atm with this population it will be very hard to kill it.

[WisdomConners]

Damn ! I would pick last night to be watching TV instead!

[Roozzz]

I was thinking last night for other ways to make Lilith a little more difficult, next to the things I allready mentioned in my previous post (AoE damage, lowering damage, raise her hitpoints) I thought about a few others.

One of the things that would seem kinda "cool" to me, would be if it would actually calls mobs for help when you drop her to 50% or something. With a 2000 range on this call would cause a lot of extra mayhem, but it still would take a bit of time before they are at the scene. And since she is their Queen this sounds like some logical thing to me
This would also give a little more tactics to it, since you could think of assigning one of the groupmates to keep them away (mezz/root etc)

Next to this it might be fun to give her a massive pbaoe heal. (Dont know if she has any healing capability at all, but we didnt notice it...) This heal would heal herself for 25% or something and heals all the mobs arround who are helping her. This would make the fight a lot more challenging I guess...

Another one Im just thinking off, is that when she is at low hp some of her helpers or the mobs close sacrifice themself to keep the Queen alive. They would transfer their health to her. This would seem really nice to me and it kinda fits in the story, she is there to revenge the slaughter of her followers. And they would do anything to keep her alive.

Also might be fun to give her something like Static Tempest, but if you add the other things I guess it would get very hard to get her down. Or maybe if you lower the stun time, not 3 seconds but 1 or 2... or even the closer you are to the mob the longer the stun lasts.

Tbh I have no idea of this possible to create

Anyway I still like the way this is set-up a lot, it only needs some tweaks to make the encounter a bit more difficult imho

[Bobster]

Actually, one of the huge problems with bossmobs is that their HP is still based on level. Con is supposed to increase HP, however, it appears to do nothing. She should have around 15k HP, but spawns with 3.5k, and I cannot seem to scale this up.

Here are the changes that are coming after the next server restart dealing with Lilith:
- Changed: Lilith's true form is now more powerful than before.
- Changed: The Daughters of Lilith are now level 60.
- Changed: The Daughters of Lilith will now do slightly more damage.
- Changed: Lilith will now attempt to throw players back a few feet into the air.
- Changed: Shroud of the Demon Queen has had it's resists increased by 1%, it's +all skills increased by 2, and it's droprate lowered to 5% from 15% to reflect the item's new quality.

[stealth215]

i'll have to look at the code when i get home, but you can override the health and give it a set value

[Graveen]

or we involves basic stats as modifiers like players (ie con = hp, str = attack, dex = defense)

[stealth215]

Code: Select all

public override int MaxHealth
{
get
{
return base.MaxHealth * 50;
}
}

that way you can manually set the HP of the mob

[Bobster]

Just curious, has anyone had a chance to test Lilith after she was boosted?

[W@rDeN]

we have been runing through df after last patch for an hour and coudnt find her.... how long is her respawn now ? we want to test her )

[Graveen]

this is not a respawn. you have to trigger her spawn. find how !

[Graveen]

Just curious, has anyone had a chance to test Lilith after she was boosted?

yes a group of 6 tested her yesterday, they told me she was jumping them every second, they can't succeed.